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			<title>Hawaiian Unknown</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:53:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This is a terrible picture, I know.  But I was in Kaua'i, Hawaii and will not go back, so I was interested in finding out if it could be IDed. ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is a terrible picture, I know.  But I was in Kaua'i, Hawaii and will not go back, so I was interested in finding out if it could be IDed.  Anyways, if you have any ideas, please let me know.<br />
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			<title>Red-breasted Flycatcher in Portugal</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:40:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I now have confirmation of this bird (which I mentioned in another thread). It is a 1st winter and was found by Simon Wates on private land at...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I now have confirmation of this bird (which I mentioned in another thread). It is a 1st winter and was found by Simon Wates on private land at Figueira on the coast just south of Budens in the Concelho (municipality) of Vila do Bispo.<br />
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I told my mate Roger about it and he contacted Simon this morning who he picked up and took him there  -  the bird was observed in this private garden for about two hours and was reasonably confiding. It has been present now for at least three days at the same locality.<br />
<br />
The owners have given me permission to access their land and I will go tomorrow if I have recovered from this dreadful flu bug to try and get some photos.<br />
<br />
As far as I can ascertain, this is the seventh record for Portugal (will be a lifer for me).<br />
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Very frustrating.<br />
<br />
Colin :cry:</div>

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			<title>ABC News Reports on Dangers to Birds Posed by Wind Power</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:21:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[As wind energy production grows, efforts to mitigate the impacts to birds and other wildlife are receiving greater attention. ABC's Channel 7 in San...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>As wind energy production grows, efforts to mitigate the impacts to birds and other wildlife are receiving greater attention. ABC's Channel 7 in San Francisco reports that Altamont Pass wind farm has been responsible for thousands of raptor deaths. American Bird Conservancy's Dr. Michael Fry is interviewed. <br />
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			<title>Chiffchaff ssp, Kent, Oct 29</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:45:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Chris Collins, Dave Gandy and I saw a rather odd Chiffchaff in the moat at Dungeness, Kent, UK, on 29 Oct.  
 
Some record shots attached. The...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Chris Collins, Dave Gandy and I saw a rather odd Chiffchaff in the moat at Dungeness, Kent, UK, on 29 Oct. <br />
<br />
Some record shots attached. The grey-brownness of the plumage was<br />
notable, but the apparent dark lateral crown sides (almost cap-like)and whopping supercilium even more so. CC and DG thought they saw the bird call (like a collybita) but, as the bird had its bill permanently half-open and as two collybita Chiffs in the same tree were calling away, I don't feel happy relying on it being our odd individual making the un-odd noise.<br />
<br />
And it gets stranger... Jizz was oddly stocky and heavy, quite unlike the two weedy collybita. Behaviour was wacky too: it basically plopped from branch to branch like a vireo or Hippolais, and nowt like a Phyllosc. Yet a Phyllosc it certainly is, and, indeed, a Chiffy it certainly is. But - and here's my question - from where and what ssp? <br />
<br />
In e-discussion with Alex Lees (when in doubt, turn to a punkbirder), we've discounted abietinus (too brown) and tristis (plenty of reasons). Alex (and I hope he won't mind me noting this) mooted Mountain Chiff because of the brown-capped appearance, a species that DG tentatively suggested at the time. (He lives in Thailand so he can be so bold.) But the yellow in the supercilium surely discounts that. <br />
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So we're back with a Chiffy and back with that question - from where and what ssp?<br />
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James</div>


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			<title>Red Kite confirmation please Portugal</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:41:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I shot this raptor today on our property. 
 
Can you confirm that this raptor is a Red Kite? 
 
And if not :err::err::err: 
 
Thanks, 
 
Bert</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I shot this raptor today on our property.<br />
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Can you confirm that this raptor is a Red Kite?<br />
<br />
And if not :err::err::err:<br />
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Thanks,<br />
<br />
Bert</div>


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			<title>Just arrived</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:00:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>New to this nice forum :beer: 
My name is Massimo Grion, an active birder and amateur nature photographer in NE Italy wetlands ... feel free to get...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>New to this nice forum :beer:<br />
My name is Massimo Grion, an active birder and amateur nature photographer in NE Italy wetlands ... feel free to get in touch if you pop up around here<br />
Cheers,<br />
Max</div>

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			<title>identification of raptors in hand</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:40:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello 
 
I know maybe this is not the right place to ask this but someone here also could help me.... 
Does anyone have such a thing as a pdf guide...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello<br />
<br />
I know maybe this is not the right place to ask this but someone here also could help me....<br />
Does anyone have such a thing as a pdf guide for ID birds of prey in hand? (for the european raptors) I am interested in the most important ID keys which can allow you to separate different raptors at different age levels starting from the nestlings up to the adult age.<br />
<br />
Thank you,<br />
Luca</div>

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			<title>identification of raptors in hand</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:36:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello 
 
Does anyone have such a thing as a pdf guide for ID birds of prey in hand? (for the european raptors) I am interested in the most important...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello<br />
<br />
Does anyone have such a thing as a pdf guide for ID birds of prey in hand? (for the european raptors) I am interested in the most important ID keys which can allow you to separate different raptors at different age levels starting from the nestlings up to the adult age.<br />
<br />
Thank you,<br />
Luca</div>

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			<title>Possible Asian House Martin in Israel</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:00:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Today a potential Asian House Martin was seen in northern Israel:  
http://www.israbirding.com/israelbirdsforum/forum_entry.php?id=1191 
 
In...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Today a potential Asian House Martin was seen in northern Israel: <br />
<a href="http://www.israbirding.com/israelbirdsforum/forum_entry.php?id=1191" target="_blank">http://www.israbirding.com/israelbir...ry.php?id=1191</a><br />
<br />
In comparison to the 'funny' Northern House Martins we get here in Israel, this seems to be a good candidate for <i>dasypus</i>. See a review of those funny birds here: <br />
<a href="http://www.israbirding.com/israelbirdsforum/forum_entry.php?id=1011" target="_blank">http://www.israbirding.com/israelbir...ry.php?id=1011</a><br />
<br />
I am interested in opinions on today's bird, especially in relation to the possible 1st for Sweden seen in 2008.</div>

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			<title>Common Shelduck in Newfoundland 17th Nov</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:35:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Calidris sp.??</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:51:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Watched and photographed on the sands between Humberston and Tetney Marsh Linc's. late September this year. Smaller than Sanderling, like a bulky...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Watched and photographed on the sands between Humberston and Tetney Marsh Linc's. late September this year. Smaller than Sanderling, like a bulky Little Stint almost. In life showed slight rufous tones to mantle and scapulars. Any thoughts.<br />
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			<title>Bird ID help please Alentejo region in Portugal</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:45:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi All, 
 
I shot this bird today and do apologise for the bad quality but I only had one shot. 
 
Can you help me out please? 
 
Thanks, 
 
Bert</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi All,<br />
<br />
I shot this bird today and do apologise for the bad quality but I only had one shot.<br />
<br />
Can you help me out please?<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Bert</div>


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			<title>Belted Kingfisher in Spain</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:34:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This bird will be a first for Southern Europe: 
 
http://www.rarebirdspain.net/home.htm 
 
Colin :cool:</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This bird will be a first for Southern Europe:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.rarebirdspain.net/home.htm" target="_blank">http://www.rarebirdspain.net/home.htm</a><br />
<br />
Colin :cool:</div>

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			<title>North Atlantic Field Guide</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:12:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am taking a cruise from New York to Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, and then to London.  Is there a field guide that addresses the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am taking a cruise from New York to Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, and then to London.  Is there a field guide that addresses the seabirds and/or shorebirds of the North Atlantic?  I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for.  I don't want to be burdened with 4 or 5 different field guides especially since this won't be a birding specific vacation.  Any assitance would be appreciated.</div>

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			<title>Hello</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:45:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello from the north of Portugal 
Here i am to learn about an activity i like very much to do - birdwacthing. 
Thank you all in advance for your...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello from the north of Portugal<br />
Here i am to learn about an activity i like very much to do - birdwacthing.<br />
Thank you all in advance for your patience.<br />
<br />
Abel</div>

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