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Brian S
May 25th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Leica Ultravid 8x42 HD binoculars

Recently introduced as the flagship binoculars in Leica’s range, I have been field-testing the new Ultravid 8x42 HDs for a while. As the best binocular manufacturers vie for the top spot, they are constantly making advances in lens and lens-coating technology. Ultravid HDs utilise fluoride (FL) glass to help with contrast, brightness and colour quality, and in all respects the 8x42s are quite superb. I tested these with another (hard to please and often restrained) birder and he professed that they were ‘quite simply the best binoculars ever made’.

As you would expect, when you open the box from new, these Leicas exude quality; just like the new Televid ‘scope, they have that certain something that Leica seem to get right – design quality and craftsmanship. Their weight is a bit more than I am used to with my 8x32s, but at 790g I did not find them tiring – Leica provide a neoprene strap, indeed often a touch of weight can help keep binoculars steady in some conditions. The eye-cups click out to two different settings and I found that they were comfortable in my sockets, with little extraneous light coming in from the edge; close-focusing was below 3m, maybe not as close as some binoculars; the focusing wheel was just a touch firm on the new pair I was using, but with use this eased, though there was just a very slight play in the wheel. I didn’t test this, but the nitrogen-filled, magnesium body is said to be waterproof to 5m.

In all light conditions, I found the image to be fantastic. In particular, I liked the sharpness, with feather details beautifully presented; I also liked the contrast, which gave a sense of depth to the image. The new FL lenses and coatings on top binoculars give great detail to shadow areas, producing a three-dimensional effect, and this was apparent on the HDs when compared with other (older) binoculars. Depth-of-field was again pretty much typical for 8x42s, and the angle of view was fine, if perhaps not quite as wide as on some 8x42s. In an attempt to push for as wide an angle of view as possible, even top binoculars suffer from slight curvature of straight lines at the very edge of the image, and so that present on the HDs was expected, if a little greater than on some other top models. However, if I was honest, I did not notice this in general use, it was only apparent when I looked for it.

The crispness of the image was stunning, in all conditions from dull to bright sunlight, with light transmission excellent and minimal obvious internal reflections even looking towards a source of light. Colour-fringing was absent and, as ever on Leicas, the colour of the image was spot on for me, with no discernible colour shift - perfectly neutral; closely examining the subtle colours and tones on the back of a Wood Pigeon, for instance, was excellent, exciting almost (?!).

So, did I agree with my colleague’s conclusion about the new Ultravid HDs being ‘the best binoculars ever made’? If they are not, they are one of two or three that may well share that accolade, and only personal preferences would make you choose one above the other. For me? Sitting on the fence, I think they probably are one of the two best I have tested.

Brian Small – May 2010

More details can be seen here - http://uk.leica-camera.com/sport_optics/ultravid_binoculars/ultravid_hd_range/

Russ Heselden
May 25th, 2010, 09:08 PM
If they make Woodpigeons exciting I have to try them.

:laugh:

An excellent, unbiased review - thank you. You say they're one of the two best binoculars that you've ever tested - what was the other pair? Like you I have the Leica 8x32s, but I'm always interested in reading reviews of other models and makes should (God forbid) anything ever happen to them ... like inadvertently testing whether they're waterproof to 5m.
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MichaelF
May 25th, 2010, 09:45 PM
No mention of the price . . . what is it? five years' income, or ten?

forktail
May 25th, 2010, 09:54 PM
No mention of the price . . . what is it? five years' income, or ten?

£1450-1650+ going off a quick check on the net.

I won't be getting a pair.

F.

Brian S
May 26th, 2010, 07:57 AM
[QUOTE=Russ Heselden;23956] You say they're one of the two best binoculars that you've ever tested - what was the other pair? [QUOTE]

Russ

I have been testing these alongside the new Swarovski 'Swarovision' 8x42 ELs, and these are the other pair I mentioned.

I will post a review of these soon.

Brian S

SzimiStyle
May 26th, 2010, 07:48 PM
I am crying when I read such a review.:puzzled: The quality and everything looks to be perfect but the price...

Cheers, Szimi

michael23
May 26th, 2010, 08:04 PM
nice review brian, i remember looking through these at the bird fair and can echo your comments. I am in no position to purchase anything like this, but i look forward to your next review of the new swarowski

:beer:

MichaelF
May 26th, 2010, 08:16 PM
£1450-1650+ going off a quick check on the net.
I am crying when I read such a review.:puzzled: The quality and everything looks to be perfect but the price...Yep, would be nice if they brought out something for £145-165 (or preferably a bit less), that people could actually afford.

Colin Key
May 27th, 2010, 01:18 PM
£1450-1650+ going off a quick check on the net.

I won't be getting a pair.

F.

If "a binocular" cost this much, you would be crazy to buy "a pair" :laugh:

Colin :wink:

MichaelF
May 27th, 2010, 02:35 PM
you would be crazy to buy "a pair"
Maybe they have them on a Buy One, Get One Free offer :laugh:

GeoffC
May 28th, 2010, 04:42 AM
I plan to buy a pair of bins when I visit the UK later this year. Can anybody tell me where I can compare high end bins outdoors, somewhere in the East Anglia or London area?

GeoffC

Brian S
May 28th, 2010, 09:36 AM
Hi Geoff

I guess the most local place for you would be Minsmere, which often have models of the best bins - though they are a bit pricey there. I don't know if Viking at Halesworth stock them all.

Brian S

Russ Heselden
May 29th, 2010, 12:04 AM
If you get as far as Norfolk you could try InFocus at Titchwell or CleySpy (at Cley, obviously!). The latter used to be at Glandford but is now relocated to the Norfolk Wildlife Trust Reserve Centre. Titchwell RSPB reserve centre also has a reasonable stock - expensive, as at Minsmere, but quite a good place to try them out. You can always look through them at Titchwell and buy them elsewhere!

In London why not try the London Camera Exchange at 98 Strand?

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MichaelF
May 29th, 2010, 12:19 AM
I plan to buy a pair of bins when I visit the UK later this year
Wouldn't it be far cheaper to buy them in Asia? British retailers aren't exactly known for cheap pricing!

Mosstrooper
May 29th, 2010, 05:52 AM
Expensive yes, but the quality sounds excellent. I expect they have the usual guarentee of 30 years, so works out £55 a year on that basis.

Compare that with a car and the depreciation we accept as the norm, long term canny value for money, virtually a £1 a week. Just thought i would offer a different viewpoint.

SzimiStyle
May 29th, 2010, 08:15 AM
I plan to buy a pair of bins when I visit the UK later this year. Can anybody tell me where I can compare high end bins outdoors, somewhere in the East Anglia or London area?

GeoffC

The best is to visit the BirdFair at Rutland Water in August and try them all :)

Szimi

forktail
May 29th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Expensive yes, but the quality sounds excellent. I expect they have the usual guarentee of 30 years, so works out £55 a year on that basis.

Compare that with a car and the depreciation we accept as the norm, long term canny value for money, virtually a £1 a week. Just thought i would offer a different viewpoint.

that's a good way to look at it perhaps

my 7 x 42 dialyts have worked out at 62 pence per week so far (£640 bought 20 years ago), getting better value by the day and will be 40 pence per week if I keep them another ten years. But I'd have to keep the Leicas for 70 years or so to get such value. (You can tell the birding is slow in east Norfolk today!)

I can see why 'new' birders would buy a pair if they were wealthy enough but if you've been birding a fair time, chances are you have some decent bins already, so it's a big chunk of cash for a slight improvement in optical quality, unknown reliability of the mechanics, and long-term stability. And many experienced birders are incredibly tight anyway.:err:

Hopefully, there may be a few decent second-hand bargains in the years ahead as new models are introduced.

Colin Key
May 29th, 2010, 06:01 PM
Wouldn't it be far cheaper to buy them in Asia? British retailers aren't exactly known for cheap pricing!

Yes Michael, but they would then be "grey imports" and not covered by ANY European warranty; when the focus wheel starts sticking or an eye cup falls off they will have to go back to Hong Kong, or wherever.

Colin :nah:

GeoffC
June 1st, 2010, 06:09 AM
Thanks everybody for the help on where to go.

I was thinking of the BirdFair, if I'm around at that time, but I guess one can't actually compare bins side-by-side there, which is what I'm really after. I assume each company has a separate stand.

Actually, for European optics, the price difference is often not very significant, especially for top of the range items. VAT is the main issue, as this is not a tax we have here in HK, but even then the price still seems to be broadly comparable. Guess it's deliberate! It is Japanese products that tend to be significantly cheaper here.

I will certainly compare prices here with those in the UK, but I figure if a company establishes a good place to actually compare bins, then I'm happy to pay a small premium for taking advantage of it...esp if it's a conservation organsiation.

Obviously, I need to check the warranty applied here too. Aren't they usually international now?

GeoffC

Marlin
June 28th, 2010, 02:18 PM
I am looking for good lightweight binoculars but not at almost £1500! More 200-350. Any suggestions? Marlin

Brian S
June 28th, 2010, 03:23 PM
I am looking for good lightweight binoculars but not at almost £1500! More 200-350. Any suggestions? Marlin

Hi Marlin

The 8x36 of these are pretty good - not sure on weight though. http://surfbirds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5999

http://www.deben.com/optics/binoculars/frontier_ed.php

Brian S

Marlin
June 29th, 2010, 07:10 AM
Thanks, Brian. I hadn't heard of Hawke Frontier ED binoculars. I'll have a look. Marlin

TonyC
July 5th, 2010, 06:55 PM
After many months of consideration I bought the Leica HD 10x42 binoculars having decided to upgrade my binoculars to the high end and Leica is the brand that I like the most. The other German and Austrian binoculars are excellent and in the end it all came down to personal preference.

They do become better the more you use them and I believe a pair of Leicas will serve you for life and although expensive will last a life time with no need to upgrade.

Steve Dudley
July 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
I am looking for good lightweight binoculars but not at almost £1500! More 200-350. Any suggestions? Marlin

Hi Marlin

Just noticed no one has come back to you here. I would advise looking at RSPB, Opticron and Minox models around the £300 price point. but if you cac stretch a little further, say £4-500, there are some cracking optics offered by these three manufacturers.

Hidden Gambia
August 9th, 2010, 06:17 PM
One guy whose opinion I rate highly is Jason Whitehead of safari-guide.co.uk. I know Jason personally as he travelled to The Gambia with us a few years ago and he has previously advised me on cameras. I wasn't disappointed.

You might like to have a look at his review of the best wildlife and safari binoculars (http://www.safari-guide.co.uk/binoculars.php).